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	<title>Comments on: A Case for Social Discrimination &#8211; Randy Hamilton</title>
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		<title>By: Randy Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://carlhaggerty.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/a-case-for-social-discrimination-randy-hamilton/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sol... In reality I am more in favor of rewarding people for their hard, diligent work in a community-- less focused on the pariahs.  Please note... when I say hard, diligent work I&#039;m not referring to contributions that everyone agrees with (as is demonstrated with this very post). Being popular or a significant contributor doesn&#039;t mean you have to be a lemming.  Even if a ratings system focused on this alone, and left the &#039;sociopaths&#039; to continue spraying their graffiti on our walls at-will, at least the hard-working diligent folks typically get the spotlight and drown out those who believe otherwise.  I wrote this to see what others thought-- if there was anything to this subject.  Today the mob votes-- and everyone has an equal vote.  Maybe this represents a good-enough system.  Maybe by the sheer number of contributions made by these &#039;heavy&#039; contributors, the so-called pariahs make themselves look stupid?  This has nothing to do with what you call &#039;lower social forms&#039; (whatever that means), but rather my encounter with a deviate whose only goal was to be destructive for no apparent reason.  And by the way, my rating eventually did go back to 100% on Amazon.  So many people complained about this particular &#039;pariah&#039; that the this person&#039;s ratings were removed and he was exiled.  Hmmm... I guess a jury of his peers decided his fate.  And if it weren&#039;t for our freedom of speech, we wouldn&#039;t be able to have this lively discussion.  I for one happen to believe wholeheartedly in our constitution, &#039;all&#039; 27 amendments, and everything for which it stands.  Thanks again for your comments Sol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sol&#8230; In reality I am more in favor of rewarding people for their hard, diligent work in a community&#8211; less focused on the pariahs.  Please note&#8230; when I say hard, diligent work I&#8217;m not referring to contributions that everyone agrees with (as is demonstrated with this very post). Being popular or a significant contributor doesn&#8217;t mean you have to be a lemming.  Even if a ratings system focused on this alone, and left the &#8217;sociopaths&#8217; to continue spraying their graffiti on our walls at-will, at least the hard-working diligent folks typically get the spotlight and drown out those who believe otherwise.  I wrote this to see what others thought&#8211; if there was anything to this subject.  Today the mob votes&#8211; and everyone has an equal vote.  Maybe this represents a good-enough system.  Maybe by the sheer number of contributions made by these &#8216;heavy&#8217; contributors, the so-called pariahs make themselves look stupid?  This has nothing to do with what you call &#8216;lower social forms&#8217; (whatever that means), but rather my encounter with a deviate whose only goal was to be destructive for no apparent reason.  And by the way, my rating eventually did go back to 100% on Amazon.  So many people complained about this particular &#8216;pariah&#8217; that the this person&#8217;s ratings were removed and he was exiled.  Hmmm&#8230; I guess a jury of his peers decided his fate.  And if it weren&#8217;t for our freedom of speech, we wouldn&#8217;t be able to have this lively discussion.  I for one happen to believe wholeheartedly in our constitution, &#8216;all&#8217; 27 amendments, and everything for which it stands.  Thanks again for your comments Sol.</p>
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		<title>By: Sol Shane</title>
		<link>http://carlhaggerty.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/a-case-for-social-discrimination-randy-hamilton/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Sol Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the post by Randy Hamilton
http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315

I came away from it with a different notion than you did. Randy&#039;s post at Social Media Today  appears to have less to do with &quot;communities&quot; than with the stated fact that someone gave his Amazon &quot;store&quot; a bad customer report card. And Randy wants folks to believe &quot;his side&quot; of the story. In a customer service situation, the customer is always right, though. So Randy continues in the post and proposes a ratings sytem for people who he assumes are pathologically negative commenters and posters, so that they are treated as social pariahs, equal to the way good whitebread &quot;Americans&quot; are supposed to regard &quot;illegal&quot; aliens and others Randy&#039;s construct relegates to lower social forms. Read his post carefuly. If you like freedom of speech and speak your mind, you might be flying in the face of Randy Hamilton&#039;s thought pollice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the post by Randy Hamilton<br />
<a href="http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315</a></p>
<p>I came away from it with a different notion than you did. Randy&#8217;s post at Social Media Today  appears to have less to do with &#8220;communities&#8221; than with the stated fact that someone gave his Amazon &#8220;store&#8221; a bad customer report card. And Randy wants folks to believe &#8220;his side&#8221; of the story. In a customer service situation, the customer is always right, though. So Randy continues in the post and proposes a ratings sytem for people who he assumes are pathologically negative commenters and posters, so that they are treated as social pariahs, equal to the way good whitebread &#8220;Americans&#8221; are supposed to regard &#8220;illegal&#8221; aliens and others Randy&#8217;s construct relegates to lower social forms. Read his post carefuly. If you like freedom of speech and speak your mind, you might be flying in the face of Randy Hamilton&#8217;s thought pollice.</p>
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		<title>By: carlhaggerty</title>
		<link>http://carlhaggerty.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/a-case-for-social-discrimination-randy-hamilton/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>carlhaggerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Randy, i have updated the link so it now works. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Randy, i have updated the link so it now works. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Randy Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://carlhaggerty.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/a-case-for-social-discrimination-randy-hamilton/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carl.  Thanks for reading my post.  Social Media Today generated an error on my first post attempt.  You can find the blog posting at http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carl.  Thanks for reading my post.  Social Media Today generated an error on my first post attempt.  You can find the blog posting at <a href="http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/40315</a></p>
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		<title>By: martinhowitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>martinhowitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 11:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not able to access that link Carl - getting Access Denied - but I wonder if this is an attempt to replicate the limitations of the real world rather than the benefits?

One of the great things about online communication is the focus on a person&#039;s message rather than their appearance, social standing, reputation etc: this makes (in theory) for a more open debate and discussion.

The channel itself must not discriminate - people will do that themselves depending on the positions people take.

Imagine a chatroom full of men discussing gender discrimination: if one of them happened to be a woman without the rest knowing (or caring) - would that improve the debate or diminish it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not able to access that link Carl &#8211; getting Access Denied &#8211; but I wonder if this is an attempt to replicate the limitations of the real world rather than the benefits?</p>
<p>One of the great things about online communication is the focus on a person&#8217;s message rather than their appearance, social standing, reputation etc: this makes (in theory) for a more open debate and discussion.</p>
<p>The channel itself must not discriminate &#8211; people will do that themselves depending on the positions people take.</p>
<p>Imagine a chatroom full of men discussing gender discrimination: if one of them happened to be a woman without the rest knowing (or caring) &#8211; would that improve the debate or diminish it?</p>
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